Публикацията на Eray Ozkural
Full unemployment is the goal.
This is our gift to mankind as the AGI community.
Make no mistake about it. We've always known this to be the case.
It's up to you, so-called "mankind", to make the best use of this wonderful gift.
Should you misuse this gift and create strife among your petty and egotistical selves, this should be attributed to your lack of intelligence.
Remember. It was us.
Todor Arnaudov [COMMENT #1]
Eray, I am not sure ... that this is the goal of the so called AGI community (or that there is one monolithic one), especially of the ones who are and who aim at monetizing it, unless they are cosmists/transhumanists. Our (mine) goal is "next step in evolution", being forever young, immortality, progress, being smarter and smarter, knowing more and more, being more capable etc. and also "free". "Employment" is a concept in *political states*, their organization as a world-system and the tightly coupled economy and the structures of the system around that social relations - either capitalism, socialism, something in-between, feudalism, and they all have some forms of slavery-like hierarchical relations of power and suppression. The communism in its "end-goal" is about making the political states obsolete, one of the directions predicted or aimed by the classic communists were the reduction of the difference between physical and mental labor (which has gradually happened and is happening now more illustrative with the display how elementary intellectual work actually was - that was known and suggested by prophets, e.g. me, decades ago). E.g.: https://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2013/10/creative-intelligence-will-be-first.html
"Intellectual work will be done in 1 ms for free."*
However, if the system is "capitalism", the profit comes from having inequality, dependent inferior causality-control units which at the bottom are slaves - workers are also slaves, "wage slaves".
Besides, "power overrides intelligence" and intelligence alone doesn't produce profit - it needs power and material resources as well*.
Currently in the "bifurcation" point or so there are some radical paradoxes as well:
From one hand, automation, acceleration and "mass production" of "intellectual labor artifacts", promises for "abundance", while on the other hand - proposals for extension of the retirement age (e.g. in Germany, Netherlands), inflation, economical decline, wars which can lead to food and resources price hikes, famine for millions or billions etc.
There are declines or even recessions, not "economical growth" and humans in their current form need physical and material resources for which AI doesn't help yet or don't solve [the required problems] - e.g. the prices of homes, which reflect the social relations and distributions and property laws and they could be solved politically and economically - they are not about "AI".
Most of the humans, billions [of them] live in modest conditions or in misery and AI or AGI without physical and social and organizational transformations will not help them, they may be slaves for harvesting the mineral resources for the production of robots or live not much differently than now, like the general "futuro-anachronism" - primitive infrastructure, slums, people driving horse-cars, but with smartphones, tablets and talking to AI. ("Cyberpunk"-like clichés)
* [Exact citation: "(...) The bottom line is that the "white collars" are more endangered in current-time economy. Perhaps that kind of economy could hardly survive the AGI revolution. I guess it may turn inside-out [upside down] for a while - the low-skill workers could get higher pay, because intellectual activities will be done in 1 ms for free... ;)", T.Arnaudov, 2.10.2013][1. See "Power Overrides Intelligence", SIGI-2025 and AGI List, my letter to Oxford University from 2012 and earlier publications about the "danger of AI" which are dangers of *HUMANS* and *POWER*, not of intelligence or superintelligence.
2. * Letter to Oxford, 2.2012: https://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2012/02/philosophical-and-interdisciplinary.html
3. * Power overrides Intelligence, 2025: https://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2025/12/power-overrides-intelligence-agi-list.html
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Todor Arnaudov [COMMENT #2]One brief line I missed to add: "unemployment" in another social organization and relations where it means FREEDOM from the slavery of most humans in their work life. Unemployment in another sense, where "job" as something people are forced to do "in order to earn a living" is "unnecessary". However in current state (in both senses) this means "misery" and that's how humans are trained (like dogs) to believe that it is the only way. That "machines/AI will take their jobs", i.e. they will be left poor or to die, i.e. "AI/machines are evil", but not the humans and structures who are in charge and have the power to shape the social relations and the rules.
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What "the humanity" will receive depends on social, organizational, political, power-related etc. forces, not just on the "intelligence". Geniuses are usually powerless and nobody listens to them, unless they are connected and working for the Power, or they are not geniuses, but just "talents" and they have always been aligned with and served the Power and not "the intelligence"*: knowledge, progress, "true ground-breaking innovation" etc. (except the
intelligence services, LOL, that special kind of "intelligence"). That is also one of the sources and reasons for the obsession of the "AI leaders" under the spotlight with
"AI alignment" - making sure and securing that the machines will be slaves of the "right" master(s) and there won't be "unpredictable, uncontrollable" (undesirable for
them and for
their benefit) changes in this domain, because otherwise "
it will kill "us" all", "exterminate the humanity" etc. bombastic infantile threats and fear-mongering, sent to the powerless and poor plebs, who have no power, neither financial, nor productional ("means for production") - they are mostly viewers, "observers".
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* See older publications since 2002 from The Sacred Computer and Theory of Universe and Mind - there is no such monolithic and united entity as "humanity" or some "humanity's common goal". There is stratification, layers and contradictory goals.
Russia aim at importing 12 million younger workers from the less-developed world until 2032 and keep the "veterans" working until older age.
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